Comments on: What’s really the problem with Sin?

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:02:20 +0000

Well, if you read through all the muck I proposed, you’d see that there’s a way that the church has already decided that a break is okay, in contravention of canon law.

But maybe Wesley should have just come back in one year.

By: AnotherCoward

AnotherCoward — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:23:10 +0000

I believe canon law is written such that you’ve got to have an undeniable reason for ordaining a bishop without 3 bishops present. And then, you should use 2 bishops; only exception being that you’ve got an undeniable reason for not having 2 bishops; and then you have to have one bishop. And if you don’t have one bishop … then NO NEW BISHOP FOR YOU!!

By: Jason

Jason — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:33:36 +0000

Yeah, only bishops are allowed to confer any of the 3 levels of ‘Holy Orders’ (deacon, priest, bishop), and traditionally, only the Pope (the bishop of Rome) does the later, though I believe 3 bishops can ordain a new one… hrm…[1] But Spencer is right, if Wesley was only a Catholic priest, he can not legitimatly name new priests or bishops (or even deacons).

[1] this one is fuzzy… I know 3 bishops showed up for the instalation of ArchBishop Gregory in Atlanta almost a year ago…

By: Imperfect Mirror

Imperfect Mirror — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:24:33 +0000

Methodist Apostolic Succession

I was joking with Jason and Spencer about Jason wondering if it was a sin for him to host his Weblog on [rocksmyfaceoff.net]; I joked that it would only be a venial sin to give me money. [And actually, while I do tithe, I don’t consider the .ne…

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:14:45 +0000

Huh. I went and did more reading in Wikipedia, and I found that the Council on Bishops says we don’t have it. Funny, because I’ve read many—Greg Neal chief among them—who argue that we do. But yes, Wesley was never a bishop, so if your argument is that you have to pass it through the bishops, I won’t argue the point.

Now I have a new entry for today!

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:01:24 +0000

I’ll let Wikipedia elaborate. I don’t expect you two to agree.

By: AC

AC — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:55:16 +0000

I thought Wesley was only a Priest in the Church of England.

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:23:21 +0000

Yes, I tithe.

But hey … we have apostolic succession!

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:42:40 +0000

ahh… but will you tithe off of it… giving to a Methodist might not be a sin at all… however, if he’ll give it to the Methodist church…

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:42:20 +0000

My slices come cheap. Giving your money to a Methodist is probably only a venial sin anyway.