“You take yourself out of the game, you start talking about puppy dogs and ice cream and of course it’s going to end up on the friendship tip.” -Trent from the movie Swingers
Healthy dating and the Christian male aren’t exactly two things that have had a close relationship in recent history, especially with the prevalence of literature peddled in Christian bookstores assuring us all that God has created one perfect mate for us who we will meet when we have achieved perfect readiness to be in a long-term relationship. Most likely, this mate will be attractive enough for us to immediately know we want to spend the rest of our lives together and will somehow fit perfectly into our lives like the missing piece in that old windmill puzzle in your grandmother’s basement.
Somewhere this side of healthy dating, Trent’s wise words begin to ring true. Being the nice guy definitely has its perks when it comes to friendship, but it’s probably the most frustrating typecast to have when it comes to anything more. Having a myspace account with page after page of beautiful women is flattering and manages to make quite a few of my friends jealous, but I think if a girl makes it to myspace friend status and we’re still talking puppy dogs and ice cream, she can pretty much assure her status on the friendship ladder. There are a couple of them that I would of course break established ladder theory rules to be with, but the majority are entrenched for life.
Jake and I have spent quite a bit talking about this because we both seem to be your typical “nice guy,” or at least that’s what we seem to be told. A lot. By most women we know. The problem lies in that we are just being ourselves. We are going to always be “nice guys.” We like creating friendships and meeting new people and having warm conversations and immediate connections with strangers, but we are not going to be the guys that use this ability to take advantage of the women we meet. We could very easily use our powers in bars to pick up women with low self-esteem and nice figures and live a life of temporary satisfaction, but we’ve decided that we want more out of the opposite sex. We decide we want to have a relationship that also serves as a great friendship because that is what we seek in the first place. For me, I find that attraction develops as I get to know someone. The true “self” of a girl I’m interested in is much more attractive to me, and usually is what ends up making me all swoony. As our conversations go deeper and deeper and she continues to laugh at my jokes, I usually begin to fall head first into the type of tailspin that left Maverick without a flight partner. Unfortunately, by that point most women have more than once used the phrase, “like a brother,” or, “such a good friend,” to describe our relationship.
So, my friends, as “healthy dating” continues to work its way into my life, please feel free to introduce me to your friends. I may end up asking your friend out for coffee. I hear that’s a “safe” first date. Just so you know, your friend will get bonus points if she avoids Starbucks.
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Dave, Dave, Dave … you don’t have two ladders. You have one. You may have just put these really pretty girls that are friends of yours way, way down the ladder, but … they’re still on your one ladder.
I think I see part of your problem (at least from my experiences). You seem to be developing your friendships with women before you start dating them. Now, you may think this sounds weird, but that’s a bad idea.
You may have just asked “Why?”. Well, once a friendship is established and you try to take it to the next level, that is potentially risking the friendship. You could potentially grow into a great relationship, but you could also have a messy break-up that destroys the friendship. If they’re comfortable with the friendship, it’s much easier to keep it than to risk it.
Now, if you ask someone out that you just know a little, then you can develop the friendship within the relationship. This way, you don’t put something that is established in jeopardy, but are taking a chance on the whole package.
I know it may seem odd (especially if you have a friend you want to date…that can be hard to get over), but that’s how it’s worked out best for me.
Comment by Greg 11.21.06 @ 10:03 amno points for going to starbucks?? is that because it means more time with you going to a coffee establishment that isn’t available on every other corner, but probably further away?? you just think you’re all sly……
Comment by Dottie 11.23.06 @ 1:37 amoh ladder theory! i think that everyone just has 1 ladder… jake is a nice guy?
Comment by Dani 11.26.06 @ 9:51 pmHi Dave! Long time no communicado. Saw your post on Xanga just today (I only check it every now and then lately). My almost-husband is also one who was perpetually on the “just friends” list. And look where he is now! We were “just friends” for a very short time before we realized we were perfect for each other and wanted the same things out of life and each other. I know it’s awful to say and even harder to tell yourself, but don’t worry about it too much. Nice guys find girls too, and usually the ones who were looking for someone like you to love and appreciate.
(p.s. Let me know if you want to come to our wedding in March. McCreight is officiating, and Jen is my matron of honor, so you’ll at least know SOMEONE there. And, as a tip, there is a severe disproportion between fantastic, nice, intelligent, friendly single ladies and similar single men…more of the former, practically none of the latter. Let me know.)
Comment by heathereileen 11.28.06 @ 8:52 amdave, dave, dave…
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