Politeness at what cost?
I was raised to be polite. Yes, sir, no, ma’am polite. Thank-you note polite (although I can’t say I never forgot a thank-you note, but I do try). Eat what was put in front of you (or at least as much as you can) polite. For me, politeness helps me go with the flow: I know what the rules are. I abide by the rules. Everything is good.
There has been a debate raging among my friends about two food-related issues: Whether I am too picky and whether I am overly polite. I vote no on the first but I am willing to concede that there is a possibility of the second being true.
The great politeness debate started just after Christmas. Mike and I went to Scott and Kelly’s to help throw Scott a birthday party (if you ask Kelly’s mom, for some reason she thinks I threw the party, but I see no need to correct her. I am a wonderful person who throws birthday parties for my friends, yes I am). Kelly got an ice cream cake for the four of us in his favorite flavor, mint chocolate chip. Let me tell y’all, I hate mint chocolate chip. But it was all there was, and it’s not very festive to refuse birthday cake when there are only four people, so I was eating it because that’s what I thought (and still think) I should do. Until Mike looked at me and called my bluff. I would have made it just fine, eating just enough for it to be acceptable, but then he had to go and ruin everything by announcing to the entire room that I don’t like mint chocolate chip. Amy Vanderbilt would not be pleased with him, that’s all I’m saying. Kelly was enraged and tried to forcibly take my plate away from me. She still hasn’t forgiven me. Just this weekend, she said that she and our friend Melissa were talking about it, and they feel that our level of friendship demands that I be more honest with them. It’s true that they are two of my very best friends, so if I was going to be honest with anyone, it would be them.
But, y’all, when I do that, they tell me I’m too picky! (I say that with love, and also to give them a hard time because I know that many of them will be reading and defending themselves.) I say that I’m not overly picky because there are only a few things that I absolutely cannot eat when they are placed in front of me: scrambled eggs and peas. Everything else I can eat at least some of (even corn, as long as I can swallow it whole and don’t have to bite into it, so probably not corn on the cob). I don’t care for a lot of things, this is true, but I think being picky is more about making a big deal about things. I don’t make a big deal about things. I am low-key. If there’s really nothing I care to eat, I can always go make myself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich (but not with grape jelly, because . . . ew). But mostly I go with the flow and I eat what I can and I eat things I don’t even really like because it doesn’t really hurt me to do that. It’s not going to kill me to eat mint chocolate chip ice cream or sweet and sour chicken even though I don’t like sweet meat (which I will tell you if you ask me, but if you don’t, I’m going to eat it). I feel like group eating is often about making sacrifices and I don’t mind making sacrifices for my friends. I will go ahead and say that I have eaten things I don’t like with most of my friends. If you are reading this and we have shared a meal, I’ve probably eaten something I don’t like. Because, yes, I have a long list of dislikes. And some of them are weird. But you didn’t know, did you?! I ate it just fine and it didn’t hurt me! It’s not a big deal to me!
There are a couple of problems with this that I can see. It reminds me of the great pizza topping debate of 2004, where I admitted that it’s hard for me to put forth my preferences in certain situations. Many situations. Okay, a lot of situations. So maybe I am being overly polite. But, again, politeness seems like a good thing to me. I don’t see the harm in it, except that if I were in my friends’ shoes, I would be horribly offended if someone ate food they didn’t like at my house and I didn’t even get the opportunity to offer them something, anything, even just a PBJ instead. So I do see their position. I just don’t know how to speak up without feeling rude.
Let me tell you a story. When I was growing up, my family went to church 45 minutes away. Youth group was on Saturday nights, so often the parents would drop me off at youth group and I would stay that night with a friend. One friend in particular, her mom always Martha Stewart-ed it up the next morning when it came to breakfast. She always made egg casserole (aka breakfast medley for those of you playing along) or pancakes. And other things to go with that. And she would serve them up and hand you the plate piling over. Now, I am not a huge pancake eater, but that’s mostly because I get hungry again so soon and it really messes up my blood sugar and I feel yucky all day. So, if you’re serving pancakes, I can eat ‘em. I would prefer not to feel so bloaty (which is a word), but I can eat ‘em. Eggs, though, are my nemesis. I used to eat them, but they turned on me at one point, and I really hate the smell. But she would serve up the plate (which I do not advocate – I think people should be allowed to get what they want on their own plates), and I didn’t want to be rude, so I would force them down. So, who was wrong here? Her for not asking, or me for not telling? In my house, my mom always asks and makes sure she has something you can eat (even if it’s just the aforementioned PBJ). But maybe I should have just said, without making a big deal about it (which is key! Go with the flow as much as you can, I say!), “Mrs. X, I have very strong feelings about eggs. Negative ones.†I look back on my 13-year-old self, sitting at that table, forcing down those eggs, and I want to cry because the smell of eggs makes me nauseated. And also applaud, because I appreciate politeness.
So, it seems like the issues are: Should you make your preferences known or just eat what’s put in front of you? Is there a certain level of friendship at which you should feel free to make your preferences know, and, if so, how do you know what that is? What constitutes picky? How come some people are picky and others just have discerning tastebuds (I am in the latter, if you were wondering)?
Readers, weigh in.

July 7th, 2005 at
is it true that because you made a clean plate at your friends house and they put more on your plate without asking or was that at the bed and breakfast in boone?
also, you should put “mike’s special beef stroganoff” on your will never, ever eat list. you forgot about that.
July 7th, 2005 at
That has happened to me more than once. I eat the thing I dislike (eggs) so that I can get the nasty smell off my plate, and I am PUNISHED by having them put MORE on my plate. “Oh, you must like that so much, here’s some MORE!” ahhhhhhh!
“Mike’s special beef stroganoff” doesn’t even count as FOOD so it’s ineligible.
July 7th, 2005 at
I just plain don’t eat thing that make me feel sick, no matter what. I don’t hold back my feelings when around friends, either. If it doesn’t hurt you to eat it, then your friends shouldn’t make a big deal out of it.
In all things, though, I think the polite thing would be to say “Would you like some _____?” Instead of forcing it upon you. For the birthday party I would have just abstained from partaking, unless it wouldn’t hurt me to eat any (just a preference).
Either way I think the polite thing to do all in all in not make a big deal out of the situation no matter which way it goes.
July 7th, 2005 at
The key question is this: Does the food in question make you sick later?
If so, don’t eat it even if HRM Elizabeth Windsor is serving it to you - YOU are the one who’s going to be in the bathroom later, not the person serving you the food.
If it doesn’t make you sick, however, cram it down in formal settings; but informally, with your best friends for example, don’t eat it. They have a right to honesty from you.
Not that my opinion is very valid.
July 7th, 2005 at
I don’t think there’s anything that makes me actually sick, although the smell of eggs doesn’t make me feel very good. But I have a pretty strong stomach. It’s more my palate I’m concerned about.
Mint chocolate chip doesn’t make me sick, and it wasn’t at the party, it was just the four of us. It was a pre-party cake. So you can see why I just went with the flow.
So, what’s the best way to handle it when someone’s at your house and they DO make a big deal about something? That always makes me kinda mad, probably because I do try so hard to be agreeable myself. I am always kind of tempted to point them in the direction of the peanut butter (but my politeness training holds). I have a relative who does this - he is always pointing out the foods he hates and making a big deal about them being anywhere near his food. And his son is the same way. I’m like, “Either eat it or make/find yourself something else. But in either case, shut up.” Of course, I don’t say that. I say polite things.
July 7th, 2005 at
I don’t think I eat out of politeness..I may pick at what I don’t like, but I generally don’t feel bad about not eating things.
I think you should be honest with your friends though. Otherwise they may make you eat pork rinds and sardines.
Mmmmmmm.
July 7th, 2005 at
I’m not too worried about that because I know you have already eaten all the pork rinds and sardines.
July 7th, 2005 at
I still have some pork rinds left. I’ll save them for you.
July 7th, 2005 at
That is very kind. But unnecessary.
July 7th, 2005 at
just say you don’t like it…be honest!
July 7th, 2005 at
My mom has a rule at our house — you should never have to eat something you KNOW you don’t like. Even if you’re a guest. She told that to every friend we ever had over for a dinner she actually cooked (with friends we often just got pizza or went out). And she would TOTALLY offer you PB&J if she was serving, like, peas and sweet and sour chicken or something.
This is similat to her “please, please tell me if you have to go to the bathroom, I WILL stop!” rule on road trips. hehe.
July 7th, 2005 at
That will be my rule, too. I like it.
July 7th, 2005 at
I agree with Kelly and Melissa, they are close enough you should say something. Same with me too.
Like you said, group dining comes sacrifices, but your friends think the same thing about your needs!
But on the flip side, I agree with you in company you are not close with, just eat what you are served.
July 7th, 2005 at
i agree with roger. you are free to eat or politely decline but don’t cause a scene.
and i think you are correct that miss manners would be all over mike for making things about *you* at someone else’s birthday party. (but giving you a hard time at a more “general purpose” function would, of course, have been entirely ok…)
July 9th, 2005 at
If the other party is the one making a scene, it is a lot harder, though. Then I guess you have to just go with the flow. The less you argue or talk about it yourself, the sooner it will blow over. If you decline to be part of the “big scene” conversation, they’ll have to give it up.